Which is better for us in NY-23? A loss or a win?

[Perky]

While I agree that it would benice to win a GOP Leaning district....particualrly this on given the Tea Party Activism pushing out the Moderate Nominee, It is a short term bennie with little consequence, A Tea Party win on the other end might push more people out of GOP or might force them to push back and have a sort of bloodletting we have not seen in American Politics in a very long time...if ever. That strategically has a lot of value. Having some Tea Partyers with a little taste of power might be the best thing that has ever happened to us because it further hurts the GOP.

But by the same token havingn more DINOs in our midsts is the consequence is something a lot of us could not stomach.

So a weaker GOP but a broader Democratic Party?

[Sanity Claws]

1. Win

If we win, the dissent within the Republican party will continue. The RW nuts will blame Scozzafava for not endorsing the teabagger and instead throwing her support to the Dems.
The Repubs are scared of this bunch of RW nuts and will cave. We could expect more RW nuts getting Repub nominations.

[FSogol]

2. It is better to win. I'm surprised this needs to be asked. n/t

[Perky]

I am looking big picture. long term advantage

Do we wnat the Rinos to stay in the part or leave in droves?

[FSogol]

5. Did you mean Dino?

Even the worst Dino agrees with us on some issues and is better than a Repub who disagrees with us on everything.

[Perky]

7. NO I mean t what I said.

DO we want the RINOs to stay in the GOP vs expanding our tend to include fiscal conservatives?

[FSogol]

10. No, by win, I mean it is better for the Democrats to win. The GOP

and I mean any branch or wing of the GOP, can take a flying f' at the moon.

[GoCubsGo]

27. I thought I heard Keith or a guest say...

...that the 23rd would be redistricted into oblivion after the 2010 census. That person (Howard Fineman?) said that it's surrounded by Democratic districts. If such is the case, it won't matter next time.

[Cha]

3. A WIN..come on Bill Owens!

[Jennicut]

4. A win is always better. However, making the Rethugs fight each other and

watching them shrink their tent is not all that bad.

[Blue_In_AK]

6. A win, definitely.

SP needs to have some of the wind taken out of her sails.

[Perky]

8. I disagree. I want her to be the preumptive nominee,

[jefferson_dem]

11. Agreed.

I will not shed tears if Hoffman wins, which will embolden the teabaggers to pit a legion of freaks against the few reasonably sane Repugs are left in office. More importantly, it would be seen as a win for Palin, which works perfectly into the master plan. The best thing to happen for Obama/Dems is to have Palin be the SCARY face of the modern day GOP...in 2010 and beyond. Bring it BIZATCHES!

[Blue_In_AK]

12. No, you don't.

You might think you do, but you really don't. She needs to be stopped now. Seriously.

[leftynyc]

17. Agree

The second she says she's running, I'll write a check. I want her front and center of the 2012 election. No better way to have President Obama reelected. He could go on vacation for 6 months, sit back and watch her explode.

[mgcgulfcoast]

9. winning is the only thing

[lame54]

13. win

[Clio the Leo]

14. "More DINOs"? Please.........

..... that's the same attitude that is causing the GOP to implode right now. While I'm all for the Republicans fighting with one another, I do NOT like that attitude in the Democratic party. A win is a win is a win.

[secondwind]

15. WIN. period. n/t

[iceman66]

16. Of course a win!

The last thing we need is (another) teabagger in Congress!

[mile18blister]

18. I want the Dem to win

Watching the Repugs fracture and lose is a guilty pleasure.

We already have enough wingnuts in Congress.

[quiller4]

19. A win. Besides Owens is no DINO

[grantcart]

20. Yes

They are both absolutely delightful.

Right now ever intelligent Republican is on their knees hoping and praying they lose so that the fundie nut jobs don't feel emboldened.

From that point of view a narrow loss would be preferable.

[onenote]

21. a win. no question

[OswegoAtheist]

22. Win. I live in NY23

and the last thing I need is to be represented by some DBagger. I think I'd die of shame.

Oswego "or move to Canada" Atheist

[Perky]

24. Your concerns are too parochrial

hh hee sorry could not resist

[AlinPA]

23. A loss is good? What?

[TheBigotBasher]

25. A win

but whatever happens in NY 23 is a loss for the GOP. They can not even choose their own candidates and have to acquiesce to the demands of limpballs to support a candidate from ANOTHER Party.

[ncteechur]

26. Benefits either way.

If Owens wins then it is a win for a Dem in a Right-leaning district and a repudiation of the wacko right wingers.

If Owens loses, then it may embolden the wackos to declare on other moderate Republicans in other places in 2010 and shrink the GOP tent even more.

But I'd rather win.

[AngryAmish]

28. win

[michaz]

29. I live in this district and I say WIN! Please don't stick us with the likes of Hoffman! n/t